JoenB75 - I'll leave the conversation there.
Punk - yes we make our own choices and stand or fall by them.
...why have you left the god and his son?.
JoenB75 - I'll leave the conversation there.
Punk - yes we make our own choices and stand or fall by them.
if you are a jw you think god is punishing watchtower?
after watchtower got banned in russia and buildings seized, lot's jws said russia would be punished.
org kept losing in court with child abuse cases.
They write to me. They wont speak to me but they write to me. Then if I go and knock on their door to thank them for their letter... guess what, they close the door in my face.
I ask myself what Jesus would do.
...why have you left the god and his son?.
JoenB75 - If I misread your comment I apologise. But I don't agree with you.
That said, you are interested in water so here's a bit of God's creation for you. I hope you like it.
Whale Gently Pushes Paddleboarder With Fin - YouTube
Re Calvin - I don't think he meant 2+2=5. He meant the Bible is simple to understand for honest hearted ones so don't try and lock up the meaning with unnecessary complexity.
(Matthew 11:25) . . .At that time Jesus said in response: “I publicly praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and intellectual ones and have revealed them to babes. . .
(Isaiah 29:14) 14 therefore here I am, the One that will act wonderfully again with this people, in a wonderful manner and with something wonderful; and the wisdom of their wise men must perish, and the very understanding of their discreet men will conceal itself. . .
(1 Corinthians 1:27) . . .but God chose the foolish things of the world, that he might put the wise men to shame; and God chose the weak things of the world, that he might put the strong things to shame. . .
(Matthew 23:13) . . .Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because you shut up the kingdom of the heavens before men; for you yourselves do not go in, neither do you permit those on their way in to go in. . .
...why have you left the god and his son?.
Hi Punk
How do we know? It is a question of working the info through our minds and deciding for ourselves whether the proof stacks up.
Why do people stay with Watchtower when it is so obviously false? Many reasons.
On ex-witness I know saw a lot of what went on behind the scenes in the back room. This one wouldn't even treat a dog the way some bro and sis were being treated. The cruelty of the organization was obvious and that was why that person left.
Me I left because I could see that the Bible opposed the very basis of WT authority. I had been lied to in my Bible study.
But some people aren't really fussed about cruelty and integrity. Or they don't see the significance of it at the moment. Others don't persist in trying to understand the Bible. They feel it's duff and get on with their lives. Their choice.
My bottom line, ok you think I'm wrong. Tell you what, I'll be wrong with Jesus. He strikes me as being an extremely nice person.
...why have you left the god and his son?.
So if there is no God you live you die.
But if He does exist, Jesus' words hold great value.
(Matthew 10:28) . . .And do not become fearful of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul; but rather be in fear of him that can destroy both soul and body in Gehenna. . .
...why have you left the god and his son?.
JoenB75 - 'yam' is sea. 'Mayim' is waters.
Leviathan is described as being in the 'yam' not the 'mayim'.
Also you say
"It is all chaos when God creates."
The Bible explains that the earth was formless (tou) and waste (bou - pronounced bo-hoo) UNTIL God created.
Smiddy - I care about animals a lot. God cares for them a lot more than you or I do. But God is not Beatrix Potter, he created rabbits, not Peter Rabbit.
Yes Jesus ate lamb and fish. Do you have a problem with that?
...why have you left the god and his son?.
But the earth was formless and waste not the sea.
The watery deep had darkness on it. And the watery deep was not the seas. They came about after the waters under the heavens were brought together in one place.
...why have you left the god and his son?.
JoenB75 - you said chaosbattle.
If you think Hugh Ross' figures seem reasonable, then that's what you think.
TBK - allegedly walking before the creation of Adam.
...why have you left the god and his son?.
JoenB75 - Hugh Ross is making it up.